Topic: Hard Problem

Camp: Agreement / Approachable Via Science

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We are in the Approachable Via Science camp within the theories of consciousness topic. We correspondingly believe the hard problem has nothing to do with the supernatural and is approachable via science.


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Statement : We are in the consciousnesses is not supernatural camp within the theories of consciousness topic. We correspondingly believe the hard problem has nothing to do with the supernatural.
We believe that everything about consciousness is approachable via the scientific method.

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Object Reason : Per Robin's request. (not scientifically aproachable)
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Statement :
We are in the consciousnesses is not supernatural camp within the theories of consciousness topic. We correspondingly believe the hard problem has nothing to do with the supernatural.


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Statement : The American Heritage Dictionaries has this definition for supernatural[1]:
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su·per·nat·u·ral
adj:
  1. Of or relating to existence outside the natural world.
  2. Attributed to a power that seems to violate or go beyond natural forces.
  3. Of or relating to a deity.
  4. Of or relating to the immediate exercise of divine power; miraculous.
  5. Of or relating to the miraculous.
n:
  1. That which is supernatural.
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We exclude all supernatural concepts and entities, such as spirits or souls that survive death, from our discussions of the hard problem.
[2] "supernatural." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. Answers.com 20 Nov. 2007


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Statement :
Many people believe we have some kind of "spirit" or "soul" that is some how above, in a different spiritual dimension, or whatever from our physical body. Many of these people believe this spirit will arise, or be freed, or whatever from the physical body when it dies. We do not believe anything like this is true. We believe that everything we consciously experience is part of the physical brain; that when we die, the conscious properties that existed cease to exist, or at best, like the rest of the matter of our body, disassociates as it rots into the rest of the natural entropy of the universe.
This does not, however, deny the possibilities either that a machine, without a brain as such, could be conscious, or that a person's consciousness could by some technically advanced method be cloned or transplanted into a machine or another body (or some hybrid of these). Support for this statement does not imply any particular position on these issues.


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Statement :
Many people believe we have some kind of "spirit" or "soul" that is some how above, in a different spiritual dimension, or whatever from our physical body. Many of these people believe this spirit will arise, or be freed, or whatever from the physical body when it dies. We do not believe anything like this is true. We believe that everything we consciously experience is part of the physical brain; that when we die, the conscious properties that existed cease to exist, or at best, like the rest of the matter of our body, disassociates as it rots into the rest of the natural entropy of the universe.
This, however, does not change the possible belief that if you achieve the ability to take the right physical stuff, and properly reconstitute it in the correct state, it will again be you. All that is required for such is the technical ability, and the required information about your state.


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