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We believe the idea that software can reproduce consciousness, or more specifically, any type of qualia, to be an obviously absurd and mistaken idea.

Computers represent information as numbers, in a binary format. One arbitrary pattern of ones and zeros could represent green while a different pattern could represent red. This representation is abstract and very different from qualia. Though a program can be written to differentiate one colour from another, this is purely automatic with not a scintilla of consciousness.

Our brain, on the other hand, has a radically different structure which does produce conscious experience. What we represent 700nm (red) and 500nm (green) light with, and what such representations are fundamentally like and how they are phenomenally different is the most important and fundamental attribute of what it means to be consciously aware, to perceive colour.

Computer software embedded in a robot can distinguish patterns of input from sensors and produce appropriate movements of actuators, but it is a mistake to see the behaviour and reason that the robot is conscious.

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Submitted On : 27 February 2010, 06:11:21 PM
Submitter Nickname : richwil
Go Live Time : 06 March 2010, 06:11:21 PM
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We believe the idea that software can reproduce consciousness, or more specifically, any type of qualia, to be an obviously absurd and mistaken idea.

Today's abstract computers are specifically designed in such a way that it doesn't matter what the information, or the ones (could represent red) and zeros (could represent green), are represented by. That is why software is considered to be 'abstract'.

Our brain, on the other hand, is of an entirely different design. What we represent 700nm (red) and 500nm (green) light with, and what such representations are fundamentally like and how they are phenomenally different is the most important and fundamental attribute of what it means to be consciously aware.

Phenomenal red and green can abstractly represent things like 700nm and 500nm light (what our brain does do), and abstract things or software can fully represent, model, compute and behave just like qulia. But, just because most matter can be configured and / or interpreted to behave like something else doesn't mean it is fundamentally or phenomenally anything like the original.

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Submitted On : 23 February 2010, 02:06:48 PM
Submitter Nickname : Brent_Allsop
Go Live Time : 02 March 2010, 02:06:48 PM
Statement :
We believe the idea that software can reproduce consciousness, or more specifically, any type of qualia, to be an obviously absurd and mistaken idea.

Today's abstract computers are specifically designed in such a way that it doesn't matter what the information, or the ones (could represent red) and zeros (could represent green), are represented by. That is why software is considered to be 'abstract'.

Our brain, on the other hand, is of an entirely different design. What we represent 700nm (red) and 500nm (green) light with, and what such representations are fundamentally like and how they are phenomenally different is the most important and fundamental attribute of what it means to be consciously aware.

Phenomenal red and green can abstractly represent things like 700nm and 500nm light (what our brain does do), and abstract things or software can fully represent, model, compute and behave just like qulia. But, just because something is fully representing or behaving like, doesn't mean it is fundamentally or phenomenally anything like the original.

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Submitted On : 30 August 2009, 06:20:20 PM
Submitter Nickname : Brent_Allsop
Go Live Time : 30 August 2009, 06:20:20 PM
Statement :

We believe the idea that software can reproduce consciousness, or more specifically, any type of qualia, to be an obviously absurd and mistaken idea.

Today's abstract computers are specifically designed in such a way that it doesn't matter what the information, or the ones (could represent red) and zeros (could represent green), are represented by. That is why software is considered to be 'abstract'.

Our brain, on the other hand, is of an entirely different design. What we represent 700nm (red) and 500nm (green) light with, and what such representations are fundamentally like and how they are phenomenally different is the most important and fundamental attribute of what it means to be consciously aware.

Phenomenal red and green can abstractly represent things like 700nm and 500nm light (what our brain does do), and abstract things or software can fully represent, model, computer and behave just like qulia. But, just because something is fully representing or behaving like, doesn't mean it is fundamentally or phenomenally anything like the original.

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Submitted On : 30 August 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Submitter Nickname : Brent_Allsop
Go Live Time : 30 August 2009, 06:16:16 PM