Allen replied 15 years ago (Mar 18th 2009, 10:22:18 am)
So far, the characteristics of this model of Multiple Universes is standard Mormon doctrine. Now, however, we come to the position of this model that our scientists can not extract information from spirit or resurrected matter. This is a controversial topic. This position is based on the following.
Spirit matter is different than physical matter and can not be discerned by our natural eyes. Joseph Smith said spirit matter was different from physical matter and could only be discerned by purer eyes. Moses said that if he had tried to see God with his natural eyes, he would have been destroyed. He did see God because he was transfigured before God. God in this case was Jesus Christ who had a spirit body not a resurrected body. I don't recall the scriptures specifically saying that resurrected matter can only be discerned by spiritual eyes via transfiguration, but I think it is a reasonable assumption that the same could be said of resurrected matter as is said of spirit matter.
Resurrected matter will exist forever, and resurrected persons will live forever. In contrast, all matter that is observable to scientists is physical or mortal matter. It is true that physical matter can be transformed into energy, and vice versa, but organisms composed of physical matter will die. Scientists have instrumentation to extract information from physical matter, but they have never had the opportunity to test those instruments on spirit or resurrected matter. As illustrated by the examples given above, resurrected matter behaves in different ways than physical matter, implying resurrected matter is controlled by different laws than physical matter. Moses said that if he had tried to see God with his natural eyes, he would have been destroyed. I think this implies a barrier of some kind that separates spirit and resurrected matter from physical matter, and I see no reason to expect that scientific research could breach that barrier. Of course, if the scientists and their instruments could be "transfigured" in some way (what ever that means) they might be able to extract information from spirit and resurrected matter.
Some people say that if there is an interaction between spirit or resurrected matter and physical matter, then scientists can extract information about the spirit matter. Actually, I think that all the scientists can do is extract information about the effect of the interaction of the spirit matter on the physical matter. For example, suppose a person were undergoing a brain scan while seeing spirit or resurrected matter. The scan would give information about the person's brain during that experience, but it would give no information about the spirit or resurrected matter itself. The question that needs answering is, "If a spirit or resurrected person were to undergo a brain scan, or other testing by scientists, would the scan or tests show anything?" Nobody can answer that question, and any attempts to characterize spirit or resurrection matter, in my opinion, is just speculation.
This is my last post to explain this model. This thread is now open to any and all comments.