Lenny, the supporter of this camp structure: http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/88/5 Has indicated he would be willing to join the [http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/88/6 Real and Representational] camp by moving his now competing structure into a supporting sub camp position if we remove the reference to 'Brain Linked' in the title. And I've heard similar requests from other people. This would be a big win so unless there are any objections, I plan on soon just removing this, and change the reference to this in the opening text a bit. Eventually, we may have to include a dependent on the brain sub camp that most members of this camp would be in, but doing this and making room for such diversity would be a big win for this real and representational camp. Upward, Brent Allsop