Dear all, I suggest the following as topic's view: The government's job is to listen to its people and act with love and care --- all of the time. We recognise that it is hard to fulfil wishes of many. Few hotheads may wish even wars. We need, therefore, to explore the wisdom the government needs to act with love and care. Have a nice day,

Hi xodorap, Good question. I'm currently the only supporter of that camp about person, rather than human rights, but I wasn't the original author. I don't know what he had in mind. I'm quite ignorant about things of politics / government, so I was just looking for the best camp to support at the time. What you have looks very interesting about the WOT and such. I like the idea of everyone knowing everything, and having people tasked to help with everyone knowing - and leave it at that. Reputation, along, I think goes a long way to make people with bad reputation suffer, and good reputations thrive. I'll have to think about this more and I just may convert to your camp. Brent

what is the point here of the distinction between "person" and human. I think the universal declaration of human rights [UDHR] is one of the profoundest documents ever created. It is not the fault of the creators that it has been ignored so much. It is only ignorance and dishonesty on the part of those with too much power that lets them believe they are accomplishing anything by ignoring the UDHR.