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Brent_Allsop replied a year ago (Jun 21st 2022, 3:31:48 pm)

The current version of the “National Defense is Required” camp refers to the "Unconditional camp" as “Naïve”, but we believe just the opposite is the case.  The required camp is based on the old win/lose survival of the fittest model, which we seek to overturn.  In that model it is all about who is the largest or strongest bully, everyone else loosing.  But this model seems naive to the fact that in an infinite universe, there will always be a bigger stronger bully.  The result being, even if someone does survive to become a temporary winner, they, too, will eventually lose.  To say nothing about how unjust such a model is, and how it violates the critically important: "Though shalt not kill".

If, instead, you work towards inverting that to bottom up, and make things win/win.  Instead of everyone eventually loosing, everyone eventually wins, or at least nobody gives up till all dead people are recovered and perfect justice is achieved.

Also, there are a bunch of different camps statically named in a polarizing way (focusing only on disagreements) in the required camp, which aren’t anything like the actual dynamic camps that exist.  The actual camps have much they agree on, and progressing towards consensus.  We choose to focus on that.