Brent_Allsop replied 14 years ago (Feb 3rd 2010, 11:19:32 am)
It's fun to see the support of this topic grow and I'd like to welcome the newest supporters. I'm especially excited to see the growth of the nature is God, [http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/2/19 We are God], [http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/2/23 Pantheistic] camps.
I consider one of the goals of canonizer.com to be finding out what people agree on. This is the information that can migrate to the highest level camps, if not all the way to the agreement statement for a topic.
I consider a great example of success in this area to be the [http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/69 Sex Education topic]. You need to set the new filter on the side bar to 0 to see the camp created by [http://www.stopp.org/director.htm James Sedlak - The famed Director of STOPP]. Since we haven't found anyone willing to directly support this camp yet.
Initially everyone thinks there is no way some of the people in these camps would agree on much of anything. But, as you can see, everyone does agree on critical importance of education. The only disagreement is that one camp thinks it should be private, and the other thinks it can be public - to me this is a far less important issue than the importance of education. So we successfully created a single top level unanimous camp that points out the critical universally accepted importance of sex education. (This is the topic I always like to show to politicians since it clearly reveals where government and the law can work - instead of everyone always focusing only on where we disagree.)
When I created the first canonizer camp on God, I also thought there wouldn't be much that anyone would agree on - but, shocking surprise, it appears there might be much we agree on after all. I would like to see if we can create a similar, universally accepted pantheistic like camp that might win unanimous support by everyone. I'd like to know if we embarked on creating such a universal camp and started moving all the other camps into a supporting camp position, would any current supporters object to such an endeavor, and if so - why.
I think the current pantheistic camp is close, but it has a bit too much explicit talk about God talking to people, and such. I think all atheists would agree with a statement defining God to be nature, or all of us, or all that we know, as long as such could clearly not explicitly include some sentient being that can talk to some of us but is mostly hiding from the rest.
I'm trying to think of a name, and the general outline of a statement for such a camp that everyone could agree with. I'd love to know what all of your thoughts and desires are along these lines, and especially would love to hear any proposals for such.