Brent_Allsop replied 12 years ago (May 7th 2011, 9:17:11 am)
Welcome to the milestones survey. It's great to have some more camps start to show up, so thanks for this great contribution, and it is a great step forward.
I see some possibility of achieving some consensus between each of our camps. Worst case, I would like to move our camp into a supporting sub camp of your camp, since I agree with most everything you say.
But, first, there may also be some significant disagreements, so I'd like to clear up and explicitly clarify some of that first.
First off, your entire statement is all only about behavior and abstracted simulation of the human neocortex. Have you nothing to say about any of this beyond mere behavior? Anything at all about what these neural correlates are phenomenally like to experience?
I'm in the camp that believes everyone being so completely ignoring anything but behavior is already significantly holding the science of the brain, and AGI significantly back. Perhaps you are a qualophobe that thinks quale either don't exist or aren't important? Or would you agree that we could continue to "simulate" the behavior of ever more of the abstracted behavior of neurons, and completely miss this as a qualophile?
I'd love to get more of your thoughts on any of this, to see if we can achieve a consensus with and combining with your camp, anything from my camp?