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4.75 Best word to mean communicating that which is ineffable
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The terms quale (pl: qualia), phenomenal properties, and ineffable are already fairly well accepted and commonly understood, at least amongst experts and philosophers that discuss consciousness.

There is an additional idea emerging which has to do with the communication of such 'phenomenal properties' or that which is normally ineffable. That which is effable, is that which can be communicated. There is a theory that predicts appropriate physical communication techniques can be employed to make the phenomenal nature of qualia, or that which is ineffable, effable.

One such technique was first described by V. S. Ramachandran and William Hirstein in their seminal Three Laws of Qualia paper. They proposed that the phenomenal nature of qualia could be communicated (as in "oh THAT is what salt tastes like") if brains could be appropriately connected with a "cable of neurons".

Also, if you are able to reliably know what particular neural correlate always, and only always results in the same phenomenal experience, such as red, the theory predicts you can reproduce such in another mind when you throw a switch that appropriately sets up such a neural correlate in one's mind. Upon which the conscious entity being communicated to could say: 'oh THAT is what red is'.

Using such a technique, the theory predicts, you can 'ground' such abstract words as red or the taste of salt in a way that the person can know, phenomenally, what you are talking about. In other words, any of these techniques converts that which was normally ineffable, into something that is now effable.

The purpose of this topic is to survey what everyone thinks is the best word to describe or mean such.

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Total Support for This Camp (including sub-camps): 4.75

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Topic Name: Communicating Ineffable

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Camp Name: Agreement

Title: Best word to mean communicating that which is ineffable

Key Words: communicate, ineffable

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